As I think I mentioned a few months ago, I'm considering buying some Le Paulson Noir chips for use in a home game (maximum ten players, either one or no rebuy). My current plan is to go with four denominations ($25/$100/$500/$1000) split 200/200/60/40 for a set of 500 chips total. Blind schedule of 25/50, 50/100, 75/150, 100/200, etc. and five thousand chips to start (16 $25, 16 $100, 4 $500, and 1 $1000). Does that sound about right to you, Roland (or others)? Thanks!
EDIT: Here is a link to the post with Benko's pictures of the Le Paulson Noir chips. There are also several other posts looking at chips needed, etc. If you don't find what you need feel free to post a question. - Roland GTX
http://www.chiptalk.net/forum/poker-chip-gallery/42179-le-paulson-noir-gallery.html
ReplyDeleteAre these the chips in question? They look very nice.
Nice choice of chips benko!
ReplyDeleteLet me run the numbers with respect to starting stack, blinds, number of players etc. I'll try to get something posted tonight.
Roland
That's them. Not as nice as a custom set but I'm lazier than Roland! I prefer the look of the $25/100/500 and 1000 (yellow, not shown) chips to the $1 and $5 chips so that's one reason for going with starting blinds of 25/50. No rush on running the numbers, Roland, I know you're busy. And the sample pack I ordered hasn't arrived yet.
ReplyDeletePaulson chips are the casino industry standard. They may not be custom, but they are hands down the best clay chip in you can get.
ReplyDeleteI’ve played with the numbers in Excel. With your suggested setup we get the following scenario:
500 chips in set with 4 Denoms:
$25 200 chips
$100 200 chips
$500 60 chips
$1000 40 chips
$95 000 in total
Number of Players 10
$5000 (37 Chip) starting stack: $25 (16), $100 (16), $500 (4) and $1000 (1)
Number of Rebuys 5: $100 (5), $500 (5) and $1000 (2)
1 color up to get rid of the $25s: $25 (160 in play) = $100 (15) $500 (5)
All this adds up to 450 total chips needed:
$25 160 chips
$100 200 chips
$500 70 chips (10 more than you suggested)
$1000 20 chips (20 less than you suggested)
So, aside from the change to number of 500s and 1000s you are good as is. However, there are a few things to consider.
Most importantly, do you expect to normally have 10 players or is this a theoretical maximum? If you have 10 players and everyone needs to rebuy, this would require $ 100K in chips. You don,’t have enough chips in the set and would be one rebuy short. If you have less than 10 players and/or few rebuys, then you can use these extra chips to increase the size of the rebuy stack.
The number of chips (not value of chips) in the starting stack has a surprizingly big impact on the game. People like to have a big stack. People play a bit looser when they have a lot of chips. And, more chips means less need to make change between players. I typically use a starting stack with 42 chips (20, 16, 5, 1). You can increase your starting stack too, without needing more chips. This seems like a better way to run your game.
$5000 (40 Chips)starting stack: $25 (20), $100 (15), $500 (4) and $1000 (1)
This works out to 490 total chips needed:
$25 200 chips
$100 200 chips
$500 70 chips (10 more than you suggested)
$1000 20 chips (20 less than you suggested)
Furthermore, since you are going for a standard set rather than custom, you can easily order more if you have the need:)
Finally, are there any restrictions on the number of chips you purchase? Some places require intervals of 10 or 25 chips. I don’t think this is an issue at buypokerchips.com though (if that is where you are buying). I like round numbers so I would probably go for 200, 200, 75, 25.
I hope this was helpful. Keep us updated and be sure to post some pictures once you get them. Have you started looking at poker tables yet...
Roland, many thanks for the very detailed comments. You always give good value!
ReplyDeleteTen players was a theoretical maximum. I imagine it will almost always be fewer than that. But I like your idea of increasing the number of chips in play. So maybe a 200/200/70/50 split (50 $1000 chips so that I can go to one denomination when play is HU, at least in a no rebuy tournament -- or is that being ridiculous?). As long as you order at least 500 chips you get a 5% discount (10% off for 1000+) and can choose whatever denominations you want so that's not a problem.
The samples arrived yesterday. They do look, feel and sound great and would display well in an acrylic carrier. Now I just have to get it approved by the Chancellor of the Exchequer! I'm pitching it as my big Xmas present (for me, not for her lol!). The biggest drawback isn't the cost but the weight as we're near our weight allowance and will undoubtedly want to buy a lot of stuff at our next post. So no poker table in my immediate future unless it's a cover for an existing table like yours!
Paulson's are great chips! I had to add my comment as a new post in order to put up the pictures.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, there are several acrylic carriers on the market. I know PalmImports (at Chiptalk) makes an excellent 600 chip carrier that can also be engraved! most of the carriers I've seen are either 600 chip or 1000 chip. For 500 chips or less most people seem to go with the aluminum cases.
I don't know if you are serious about a table topper or not, but mine was easy to make, light weight, but a bit bulky. There are also standard toppers on the market. Let me know if you you want more info on these things.
Finally, which cards, dealer button etc are you planning on using?
Once again, the links on the blog, especially HPT, will give you all the info you need (plus some) to make an informed choice :)
A 600 chip acrylic carrier does seem to be the way to go.
ReplyDeleteIf you happen to know of a standard topper which is good quality, relatively inexpensive and not too heavy I would be interested but otherwise I think that part will have to wait until I see what kind of table comes with our next dwelling.
The Paulson chip sample came with a free dealer button which seems fine. After browsing on HPT, I am leaning toward red and blue KEM arrow wide jumbo index playing cards. At my advanced age, I am beginning to appreciate the large type print books at the library! What cards do you use?
I'll get you all the details tomorrow. Right now I firing up the Daily 30K...
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