1st Roland GTX
2nd Klokkhammer
3rd 33seabreeze
Our level of play has seriously improved since we first started playing a few years back. Long gone seems to be the tight-passive, loose-passive or loose-aggressive donk play that prevailed back then. MrSmith, MrE and myself have finally become tight-aggressive and Seabreeze is clearly heading in that direction. Klokkhammer on the other hand has continued with a looser style. Nothing wrong with that if you can play post flop. In fact, I find you the most difficult to read. As a result, I’m left feeling that I too often fold the better hand preflop, or worse I end up shoving into your slowplayed monster.
The cards were falling my way last night, however. I don’t think I’ve ever had so many A10+ hands in a game, and I was hitting the flops. The final hand heads up allowed me to slowplay you for once klokkhammer. If I remember correctly, you completed from the sb and I checked with 78o. I flopped the idiot end of a straight and you had middle pair high kicker. I checked-called when you shoved your last 1000 chips and my straight held up to win the tourney.
I don’t recall the blind level, but I do know that I had enough of a chip lead that had you shoved preflop, I would have taken my ”free shot” at knocking you out and called.
I have been keeping a leader board for our Roland’s Room tourneys. After four events the standings look like this:
Question: How often do you want to have these tourneys? Use the poll to let me know :)
That’s it for now, I’m actually quite busy at work today.
Roland
PS: My new card setup arrived. They are better than expected! Home game anyone...?
The blog is more and more impressive Roland - now even with polling and statistics.
ReplyDeleteWe should introduce the table they have in a norwegain newspaper ("the real table" - The table you would get if it were corrected for unfair decisions from referees). I am sure a all of us have complaints in the direction of "useless cards", "right move wrong result", even "the site is rigged" might occur now and then!
But, let it be said your overall lead is well deserved Roland.
By the way, its the first time I have received the label "loose", but I guess its a correct description, and we can't all be tight:)
It would be interesting to compare flop rates during the game, I think I started with 30%+, but tightened to 25-30% when I was short, and increased a lot in the end.
Klokkhammer
Haven't seen "the real table". Which newspaper?
ReplyDeleteLoose, definately, but not donkishly. You like to play Ax, and you like to limp from situations that a tighter player would typically fold or raise from.
I checked yesterday during the game. My dad and you did both limp(utg and utg+1)with A6o. I doubt MrSmith, benko, or myself would have played that hand unless shortstacked. And if we had played it, it would presumably been with a standard raise.
But, knowing you can limp with A6o just as easily as with AKs makes for difficult postflop play. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with the style if you know what you are doing. You have beaten me heads up often enough to show that it works for you :)
I was getting a lot of playable hands and we were only 5 players. So, played more hands than normal. Nonetheless, I'm guessing that my floprate was lower than yours. Since I tend to raise preflop, I won a bunch of hands without having to see the flop. These don't get counted in your flop rate.
time to pick up the kids. More later
Snakkes og gg yesterday:)
It's a football thing - think its Dagbladet.
ReplyDeleteYes you are right - I often limp with Ax, as well as with AA/AK. For me it's a good way to enter the flop, all tough I would guess that my efficiency with the AA/AK is somewhat lower than yours by doing this :)
Klokkhammer
I'll check out Dagbladet.
ReplyDeleteI like raising preflop with strong hands for several reasons.
1. It greatly helps to put an opponent on a range of possible hands should they call or reraise.
2.It limits the number of opponents who see the flop. Thus, middle suited connectors tend to fold.
3. Obviously, it also gives that huge advantage of being able to win because people fold preflop.
4. Finally, you are betting for value. You want more chips in the pot since you assume you have the best preflop at least.
5. I save slowplaying for postflop action.
On the flip side,
1. limping keeps the pot small allowing you to get away from a bad situaation.
2. High blind limping (hbl) with a monster from the btn or sb will very often cause aggressive players to raise or shove on you from the bb with hands that they otherwize would have folded had you raised first.
3. Limping makes it hard to put you on a range, but it also makes it hard for the limper to put other limpers on a range.
I think one needs to choose a style they are comfortable with. More importantly, one needs to adjust to the opponents at the table, especially the two to your right and the two to your left.
TAG is safe but predictable, but many of the top pros (Hanson and Ivey) are extremely loose at times. It is the unpredicability, the difficulty in putting them on a range that makes them so tough to read.
If you are winning money, then I wouldn't worry about your style. It is good to recognize how others view you. Saying you are looser than me is a descriptive comment, but not meant in a negative way. I can't remember the last time I saw you make a donkish move:)
Snakkes
Roland