I busted out early in the big tourney. Here is my early level strategy. In favorable situations I played any pocket pair, suited connectors 45+, suited broadway, and Ax suited.
Favorable situations for me being in position with several limpers, out of position but an unopened pot, or late to act facing a 3x raise or less.
Well, I limped a few hands early and folded to unfavorable flops. I spent most of my time watching the other players. One player in particular played about 30% of the hands the early levels, often raising unopened pots, or reraising if late to act. He was clearly loose aggressive.
Anyway, about 45 minutes into the game I picked up QJs in the bb. The lag guy makes a standard 3x and the action folds to me. I made a loose call trying to emulate benkogambit's new style.
The flop was Jxx with two suited cards not matching my own. I had top pair and decent kicker, but not top kicker. My hand seemed good, but vulnerable. I fired a 50% bet and the lag minreraised me. As I said, he had made this type of reraise several times earlier. So I still wasn't convinced that I was beat. We both checked the turn, making me feel even better about the hand. The river was another low card. I made a smallish bet of 600 into the pot hoping to keep him from raising my passiveness. It worked and he flat called. Then he turned over AJ to win the hand and half my stack with the better kicker!
This is a typical example of my post flop problems with mediocre hands. Folding preflop might have been acceptable preflop, yet folding top pair to his minraise on the flop seems weak against a known lag player. I need to work on this type of situation if I was to get deep in a big MTT.
Anyway, I tightened up my game after that and pretty much folded everything for the next hour. I did flop one set, but got no action unfortunately. After close to 200 hands, I had not seen a single QQ, KK, AA or even AK hand. My Q was horrible now with the avg stack being 7000 chips and me sitting with 1600.
I finally picked up a hand in the bb again with the blinds at 40/80. An early player limped and the aggressive btn with a 10K stack raised it up to 350. Now there was 550 chips in the pot and I had about 1500 chips after posting the bb and I was holding JJ. I could have flat called, but I would have really been hurting if overcards flopped and I had to fold. No question about my line here. I reraised all in. The original limper folded and the raiser needed to pay another 1200 chips into the 2050 pot. He called with KQo and rivered a K to knock me out.
I ended up about nr 7000 out of 10 000 players.
No big cash for me this time...
Thanks for the moral support benkogambit and MrSmith !
Unfortunate! I will have to come up with a different chant next time as this one obviously didn't work. My "new style" may work better at 6-max than in an MTT as players are open-raising light when the table is short-handed but against this player you were just UL that he actually had a hand and he hit the flop. Nice blocking bet on the end to minimize your losses. Next time!
UL Roland. I have had some problems myself handling postflop decisions with hands like you describe (QJs). Also, looking back at some of my own history, how should one handle hands like your JJ when shortstacked in late position? I tried to vary the approach with flat calling or shuving preflop with cards like AK, JJ, QQ, etc. I can't find any real diffrence in the actions from the preflop agressors, even if I flat call, then shuv on the flop (I consider the flopped cards uninteresting, as I will be more or less committed to the pot anyway given the shortstack). The call willingsness from the aggressors is high, although they missed the flop, and typically you get rivered. Any thoughts?
BTW, did u c how opr fucked up ur ROI and profit after that ticket? Just like my step 4 ticket in the Sunday mill., they don't consider you won it (and add the $ before they subtract it).
Thanks benko!
ReplyDeleteI busted out early in the big tourney. Here is my early level strategy. In favorable situations I played any pocket pair, suited connectors 45+, suited broadway, and Ax suited.
Favorable situations for me being in position with several limpers, out of position but an unopened pot, or late to act facing a 3x raise or less.
Well, I limped a few hands early and folded to unfavorable flops. I spent most of my time watching the other players. One player in particular played about 30% of the hands the early levels, often raising unopened pots, or reraising if late to act. He was clearly loose aggressive.
Anyway, about 45 minutes into the game I picked up QJs in the bb. The lag guy makes a standard 3x and the action folds to me. I made a loose call trying to emulate benkogambit's new style.
The flop was Jxx with two suited cards not matching my own. I had top pair and decent kicker, but not top kicker. My hand seemed good, but vulnerable. I fired a 50% bet and the lag minreraised me. As I said, he had made this type of reraise several times earlier. So I still wasn't convinced that I was beat. We both checked the turn, making me feel even better about the hand. The river was another low card. I made a smallish bet of 600 into the pot hoping to keep him from raising my passiveness. It worked and he flat called. Then he turned over AJ to win the hand and half my stack with the better kicker!
This is a typical example of my post flop problems with mediocre hands. Folding preflop might have been acceptable preflop, yet folding top pair to his minraise on the flop seems weak against a known lag player. I need to work on this type of situation if I was to get deep in a big MTT.
Anyway, I tightened up my game after that and pretty much folded everything for the next hour. I did flop one set, but got no action unfortunately. After close to 200 hands, I had not seen a single QQ, KK, AA or even AK hand. My Q was horrible now with the avg stack being 7000 chips and me sitting with 1600.
I finally picked up a hand in the bb again with the blinds at 40/80. An early player limped and the aggressive btn with a 10K stack raised it up to 350. Now there was 550 chips in the pot and I had about 1500 chips after posting the bb and I was holding JJ. I could have flat called, but I would have really been hurting if overcards flopped and I had to fold. No question about my line here. I reraised all in. The original limper folded and the raiser needed to pay another 1200 chips into the 2050 pot. He called with KQo and rivered a K to knock me out.
I ended up about nr 7000 out of 10 000 players.
No big cash for me this time...
Thanks for the moral support benkogambit and MrSmith !
Roland
Unfortunate! I will have to come up with a different chant next time as this one obviously didn't work. My "new style" may work better at 6-max than in an MTT as players are open-raising light when the table is short-handed but against this player you were just UL that he actually had a hand and he hit the flop. Nice blocking bet on the end to minimize your losses. Next time!
ReplyDeleteUL Roland. I have had some problems myself handling postflop decisions with hands like you describe (QJs). Also, looking back at some of my own history, how should one handle hands like your JJ when shortstacked in late position? I tried to vary the approach with flat calling or shuving preflop with cards like AK, JJ, QQ, etc. I can't find any real diffrence in the actions from the preflop agressors, even if I flat call, then shuv on the flop (I consider the flopped cards uninteresting, as I will be more or less committed to the pot anyway given the shortstack). The call willingsness from the aggressors is high, although they missed the flop, and typically you get rivered. Any thoughts?
ReplyDeleteBTW, did u c how opr fucked up ur ROI and profit after that ticket? Just like my step 4 ticket in the Sunday mill., they don't consider you won it (and add the $ before they subtract it).
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