I received an offer the other day from PokerProLabs for their tracking software Holdem Profiler and Super HUD, and have been messing around with these for the last few days.
Benkogambit has spoken about poker software in an earlier post and I thought I would give some examples of what you can do with these things. I am just learning how to do this myself. This is just the tip of the iceberg as there are a ton of stats in these things.I started by importing all the games in my hand history folder (basically the 400 games I played in November). This was easy to do and worked automatically, but it took quite a long time.
SUMMARY
You can view your cash game results or tourneys. I’ll focus on tourneys, since that is what I play the most. Firstly, you can view a Summary of your results just like you can on PokerProLabs:
This works great especially for particular buyin levels. There are a million different stats you can choose from and sort by. However, a few tourneys such as Steps have not recorded results properly and are listed as ”na”. This draws your total results down since they seem to be handled as losses. Also, it lists the $4.10 Knockouts as $3.35 as you can see it the pic. You can click on a line and get up all the results for each game. And, you can click on a particular game and watch it in the built in replayer (I haven’t tested this yet).
LEVELS
Now we get to the good stuff. I can choose a buy in level, $3.35 for example and see how I have played all the hands in these tourneys. These are the standard stats that most people show if they use a HUD.
VPIP means voluntarily put money in pot. This stat shows how many hands you are playing and thus how Tight or Loose you are.
PFR% means pre-flop raise percentage. This stats shows how often you raise and thus how aggressive you are.
AF means Aggression Factor This stat is = ( Total Times Bet + Total Times Raised ) / (Total Times Called )
W$SD means won money at showdown. AF for all the streets, and how often I Cbet the flop.
VPIP, PFR and AF are commonly used in HUD. I’m not an expert at interpreting these things, but we can make a few observations. I’m fairly tight. So, if an opponent has a lower VPIP than me, then they are tighter than me. The opposite would indicate a looser player. This can then be used to help put the opponent on a hand range. The PFR helps you see how passive/aggressive a player is. I am pretty passive early in the game limping pp, sc and AXs and have a low PFR. As you can see from the table above, the higher the blinds get, the more aggressive I become in the hands I play. From what I have read, if your AF is less than 0.5 then you are playing too passively. In other words, you should be the aggressor in at least half the hands you play...
POSITION
We can look at the same stats based on position rather than blind level too. This table is for all games played, not just the knockouts.
You can see that my VPIP and PFR increase when I get to the button. You can also see that I’m losing money with my sb play. I’m not sure how to interpret this yet, but it seems to be a huge leak that needs to be plugged.
The HUD also seems to work well. You can pick and choose what stats to have on screen. You can have VPIP, PFR and AF, but you can also have other stats like Total profit, Pokerprolabs ranking (A, K etc), Total games played, player type. Right now I just have a few stats showing. However you can simply right click on a player and bring up details stats for everything.
All in all these tools seem quite interesting and useful. Furthermore, they seem to offer pretty much the same stuff as PokerTracker and HoldemManager. My first impression in positive, but now I need to do the legwork and learn how to interpret all these stats properly.
If anyone else has tested these tools, let us know.
Roland GTX
This is very interesting Roland. If playing button, SB and BB is your leak then it may have something to do with your tendency to "engage" from position (stealing blinds). But, what does it really say? Could the solution be so easy that you simply should abandon, or thighten up, your (strong) positional style?
ReplyDeleteHi Klokkhammer!
ReplyDeleteI'm not quite sure yet. I've been doing some research, but still have a lot to figure out.
My early findings indicate that I am playing TAG which is where I'm most comfortable. They also indicate that having negative numbers for the sb and bb are normal for tourney players. So, thus far it doesn't look like the huge leak I thought it was.
There is steal a leak from the btn and sb though. For example, looking at my results for particular hands from the button I see I'm losing money with with the low end of my range -A7o. I think I can still profitably steal with this hand, but I need to be more careful in spots where I'm called or reraised. In other words I need to work on my post flop play.
PS: I'm profitable with A9o :)
After I get more familiar with these tools, I plan on posting specific questions on 2+2 and hope the experts can help me out.
CORRECTION! I meant A7s above, not A7o.
ReplyDeleteGood stuff, Roland! I just saw your post about an hour ago and it motivated me to give Hold'em Profiler a try. Fortunately or unfortunately I only had fifteen $12+1 6-max SNGs in my hand history folder as it had been set to save them for only 30 days so it's a small sample size -- on the other hand, it didn't take too long to upload! The stats are fascinating. These 15 SNGs happen to coincide with the worst run in my poker career but I was happy to see that in 1357 hands, I was only dealt AA and KK once each so it wasn't just bad play on my part. And I lost more chips the three times I was dealt QQ than with any other hand. My second biggest loser was pocket threes, the hand I busted out on in Copenhagen, followed by -- A9o! My biggest winner -- freakin' jacks.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I look forward to your experiments with the software, Roland. SNG Wizard also looks interesting BTW.